Queen Victoria Somehow Survived 7 Assassination Attempts

“Damn the queen; why should she be such an expense to the nation?” β€”John Francis, one of the Queen’s attackers

In A Nutshell

Queen Victoria is one of the longest-reigning monarchs of the British Empire, and one that has always been a figurehead for British royalty. Surprisingly, her popularity got a boost each time someone tried to kill her—and that happened at least seven times during her reign. The first came within months of her taking the throne, and others include attempts by a hunchbacked dwarf and a man who hated the number four as much as he hated the Queen.

The Whole Bushel

Queen Victoria was born in 1819, and took the British throne in 1837, after the passing of her uncle, William IV. Between her ascension and her death in 1901, she had given her name to an era of British history, expanded the British empire and extolled the virtues of its imperialistic nature, and was—for better or worse—a devoted and loving wife to a man who was never truly accepted by his adopted English country.

Less well known than her political and personal successes are the numerous assassination attempts that were made on her life during her reign and her refusal to give her would-be assassins any satisfaction whatsoever. The assassination attempts led to not only changes in English law but huge boosts in the Queen’s popularity as she faced death with a bravery that the people saw as unrivaled.

The first few attempts on her life came only a few years after she took the throne. The first, in 1837, was perpetrated by a man who claimed to be the true heir to the British throne and the son of George IV. When trying to break into Kensington Palace to claim his β€œrightful” place didn’t work, he settled for charging her carriage, armed with a pistol. For his trouble, he was shipped off to an insane asylum.

In 1840, a waiter (who didn’t believe that England should be in the hands of a woman) fired several shots at both Prince Albert and a four-months-pregnant queen. He, too, ended up in an insane asylum, although he was released in 1867 and left the country.

In 1842, the young royal was fired at once as she was returning from church. The shooter escaped, but returned the next day to give it another try. Using the Queen herself as bait (at her insistence), the police lured out the would-be assassin and arrested him when he tried to kill her again. He was sentenced to death for his attempt, but was eventually deported to a penal colony off the coast of Australia.

Five weeks later, the Queen was attacked again while riding in an open carriage. This time, the would-be assassin was a hunchbacked teenage dwarf armed with a pistol that had been badly loaded with paper and broken pipes. It misfired, and although he initially escaped, he was captured when police simply began rounding up the city’s hunchbacked dwarfs. He received only an 18-month prison sentence.

Seven years later, an improperly loaded pistol wielded by an Irish farm laborer misfired made the next attempt on her life. And in 1850, a man named Robert Pate got close enough to the Queen to hit her. A retired army man, Pate hit the Queen with his walking stick when she was walking home after visiting an ill relative. No stranger to assault and assassination attempts by this point, the Queen’s remarks included a sadness that a man would think it acceptable to strike a woman, and that at least those who tried to shoot her showed more courage. That night, the bruised Queen went out to the opera.

By the 1870s, there were numerous reports that assassination attempts were being planned by Irish groups who were trying to make a point about the treatment they were receiving from the English. The next assassination attempt came in 1872 from an Irishman wielding a non-functional pistol and a document he wanted her to sign, freeing the Irish from English rule. He, too, was ultimately deported to Australia.

The final attack on her life came in 1882, when she was again shot at as she was traveling in a carriage. This man not only hated the Queen, but also the number four. Additionally, he believed that there were supernatural powers to be found in blue things. It was this final attempt that prompted a change to the law books, enabling a person to be found guilty but insane.

So common were assassination attempts on the Queen’s life that, at one point, it was thought the attempts were all about glory. In order to neutralize the imagined glory the attackers would gain from being labeled as traitors, the crime was briefly demoted to a simple misdemeanor, with the guilty party getting only a short jail sentence and a whipping.

Show Me The Proof

Queen Victoria: A Biographical Companion, by Helen Rappaport
BBC History: Victoria (1819–1901)
Express: The men who tried to kill Queen Victoria
Painting: Alexander Melville

  • The man who hated blue and the number four was called Roderick Maclean. Apparently he had sent some poetry to the queen and was insulted by the curt reply he got. He reminds me of an artist who lives a few doors from mine, who claims to have a special relationship with the royal house of Orange. He says the queen mother asked him to design a series of black tulips. Last year he threw out all of his paintings, so that they wouldn’t fall into the hands of the Lithuanian maffia. Some neighbours complained and the police made him take them back inside. Sometimes I’ll see him sitting on a bench in the park, wearing a white fur uniform with a huge orange scepter, but he never seems to see me when he’s dressed like that.

    • Architecht

      *Artists*

    • Blue

      He hated me? He doesn’t even know me……………

      • Lisa 39

        I don’t hate you blue, sometimes you’re a butt but most of the time you can be rather pleasant πŸ˜€

        • Blue

          I think people hate the message not me really, I am lovable and cuddly after all.

          • Lisa 39

            Well sometimes you are lovable and sometimes you push buttons just for shits and giggles lol

          • Blue

            Boredom is a fascinating thing at times. I admit I like playing with the more intellectually challenged we get coming to LV and here, there is method most of the time.

            But truth be told I am a little bored this past couple of weeks, I am recuperating from a knee surgery so have far too much time on my hands, wife abandons me and goes shopping as I am a nightmare when bored, dog has taken to f*cking off and playing on his own and the cat wont come off the ceiling for fear of a kick up its jacksy.

          • Joseph

            I hope your knee recovers quickly. I’m not sure it’s productive to “play” with people you think are intellectually challenged though. It’s more of a character flaw to feel superior to others especially based on the comments section of a website. “Playing” with people doesn’t show intellectual superiority either.

          • Blue

            I think you misunderstand what play means to me, I am teaching them (or trying to anyway) to ask questions and when they respond they actually are asking questions, which is why they fall off after a while, usually this is because they understand the facts but are unwilling to face them.

            I am not going after superiority, that really is a given in most cases (that is not hubris or ego just a statement of fact unfortunately), I can play the fool as much as the intelligence card Joseph, I think you know this. What really irks me is this false logic and not asking questions of what you see everyday around you.

            Its really mostly down to ideology and indoctrination which is a really sad thing to think about, especially in this day and age where facts and knowledge are at your finger tips.

            Anyway, thank you for your concern, it is a real pain this time of night as of course it gets worse over the day as you stand on it, so its back to Ibuprofen and Paracetamol slumber for me while it eases off overnight. Its a cartilage problem between the tibia and femur so it is really unpleasant to stand on and this is coupled with my anterior cruciate snapping because of the strain, only 3 days in hospital to do it all mind so give them credit for that. In a cast for 6 weeks, then a caliper for another 3 months and fingers crossed back to semi normality. Very old injury that has come apart again, ahh the hubris of youth.

          • Joseph

            I have cartilage problem in my right knee so, I can understand how terrible that can be. It’s actually reduced my over all health since I apparently don’t know the definition of the word diet. I’m joking of course, I just have to get used to a more sedentary lifestyle. I wish you luck in returning to semi-normality. I’m sure it won’t help, but it’s part of the social contract. Sometimes your comments seem derogatory or condescending for no good reason especially with the topic of religion. Indoctrination might fit people of any religion, but any belief can really be considered indoctrination. There are Christians and members of other religions that don’t use their religion as a means to hate others or participate in violence. There’s no reason to lump them all together and label them as “stupid” or “intellectually inferior” because of a belief in a higher power or an afterlife. I frequently wish I could have a belief in those things, but as you mentioned, I understand the “facts” (meaning the possibility of those things is remote at best). As far as some of your other assertions, I don’t take offense personally, but I think that some go too far. I believe some of your comments were meant to represent all Americans as stupid and that’s just not true. I’ve travelled to many different countries (most of them were in Europe though), but I haven’t found any significant differences in either culture. As a study, I feel that would be an insufficient sample size to know definitively, but my opinion doesn’t need that level of scrutiny. I think poor sentiments about any country are based more on bias than factual representations. I’m not going to promote myself, but I’ve taken the Mensa IQ test and I wasn’t too upset by the result. That’s only one form of intelligence however, there are plenty of people better than me and would score below me. Everyone has a skill that they excel in and no one is worthless. Maybe conspiracy theorists and racists are… Anyway, the main purpose of this rambling diatribe is that the real reason for discussion is that both sides teach and are in turn taught something, even the most useless argument can be the most intellectually stimulating. Let me know if you make it through the entire comment. I would appreciate any grammatical corrections since I don’t have an editor.

          • Blue

            I have put on about 30 pounds in the last 6 months and I am disgusted with myself.

            I really dont believe all Americans are stupid, but there are an awful lot of you that are simply ideologically brainwashed and another group that really is stupid and doesnt question anything.

            I will leave the reply up for a while that I sent Lisa just now, have a read of that to get what I went through.

          • Joseph

            I’ll read it, I haven’t had surgery, but my doctor has said that it’s only a matter of time. I gained about 60 so far… I am disgusted with myself as well. It’s difficult to go from exercising daily to maybe twice a week for 1/3 of the time. It doesn’t help that standing makes the pain increase. At least (for me) it becomes bearable with movement. I will accept that some Americans are ideologically brainwashed, but I would think that would be present in many countries. I could be wrong, many tea party members are completely crazy… I really hope those people aren’t representative on the US as a whole. I’m a Republican, but I will readily admit that sometimes other ideologies are better suited depending on the circumstances. Are you a socialist? I can’t remember if that title would suit you, but I’m not trying to be insulting. In a perfect world, socialism would really be the best way to go. I’ll also admit that I’m not an expert on socialism, but I would be happy if everyone on Earth had everything they’d need to make them happy.

          • Blue

            No you are not wrong that the rest of the world has idiots, my own country seems to be positively stuffed with them at at the moment all sucking from the aspirational nonsense rather than trying to help everyone its always me me me.

            The thing is that everyone can have what they need, this is really what bothers me, there is more than enough to go around but greed seems to be the only thing people care about, this is really the ideology of which I speak, where it is ok to openly deride lower class people rather than to spend a little more to help them.

            Anyway have a read as I am going to pull it down in a sec, I will copy and paste it to you if you dont have time.

          • Joseph

            Given a one world government it might be true that there are enough resources to go around. Not the conspiracy theory nonsense, but if it were to be a reality. First world countries throw away much more food than third world countries. It’s also true that some third world countries have a food disparity based on the local population wanting drugs more than food. Maybe it’ll change one day. I think you’re right about greed, but I also think that’s too simplistic of an answer. If every country worked together instead of being aggressive towards each other, that would could be a reality. The libertarian party in the US wants to end all foreign aide to focus on our country first. That’s not a good strategy. To advocate that the population of your own country is more important than human suffering in another is abhorrent to me, but that also implies that cultural differences can be overcome. Within our own “spheres of influence” there is a scarcity of resources. I don’t have an answer…

          • Blue

            Honestly you make very valid and good points there. The problem is the hoarding of wealth, now you read about me so you know what I earn just in residuals, I honestly feel guilty as anything about it as my peers where I come from wont even earn a fraction of the tax I pay per year in a lifetime.

            To combat this we set up the consultancy business with an investment banking arm, its not massive by any stretch of the imagination and we invest in about 4 or 5 companies annually and help about 3 or 4 more to realise their potential (or we did I sold 52% of the company last year and have 17% left – so I could effectively retire, hasnt really panned out like that so far but I do have a lot more free time to concentrate on my first love which is quantum physics).

            the kicker with that company is we only invest in sustainable and humanitarian companies, so that effectively we are giving back to society, when we first set this up in 2000 I had huge rows with my business partner about it but he has slowly conceded it was the best possible way forward. There really was no forethought with this, I did not think the green revolution was around the corner or that sustainable living/technology was the future, it was a pure punt in the dark. Yet by doing this we have made a lot more money as this arena has expanded massively, which rather defeated the purpose although we do reinvest all profits. I am going to set up a trust at some point i think to leave behind a legacy if I can.

            But I am also setting up another company right at this moment which will likely have a similar effect to what you are discussing, the reason for this is that really the people are the business sponsors of the world, without us businesses do not survive, you only buy goods and services from them, take that away and a business dies. And that is the kicker that everyone fails to realise, so you play business at their own game, you set up buying cartels and purchase all goods and services with spending power and you can then also dictate pricing strategy because if they dont fall in line they lose their lifeblood – us.

            It needs critical mass and we think 18 months from now it will have that, at that point we become a threat and my name will be dragged through the mud, but f*ckit, I am a big boy with enough cash to not worry about this aspect at all. I believe firmly that you can only change where we are right now by out competing the corporates from inside but it can be done.

          • Joseph

            If the claims you made are true (no offense) than you’re better off than me, but I’m comfortable at my level of resources. Strange for a Republican to claim, but I only want as much as I need to be comfortable. The nature of the internet is the only reason for doubt so, don’t take it personally. Given your attitude (which I probably had misrepresented biased about) I’d hope that you were truthful in your endeavors since you seem to have a good “heart” (in a metaphorical sense). I believe what you propose would be directly in line with my philosophy, I hope one day that individuals instead of governments will try to help out those countries populations. Government is at best a tolerable evil. I think that’s a paraphrase of Thomas Paine, but either way it’s the truth.

          • Blue

            Of course this is the internet, but really I have no reason to lie about this stuff, I struck it lucky fairly early on in my career, not through any real thought that it would be this successful, to be perfectly honest with you our original business plan called for 300k of profits annually, which we made in a month when it went fully live.

            One of the things about this time was everyone wanted technology, this is before the tech crash and before people really started to use quants so we were just in the right place at the right time, I really wish I could say it was pure talent but that would be a lie.

            It is a very large quandary for me as I do literally come from nothing, my father was a train driver and my mother managed a nightclub, there was never a lot of money to go around and they had no way of paying for my college fees so I was fortunate to have a bursary (scholarship you call it) to go to university which is why I am so anti tuition fees which place people in debt before they even begin to earn, I believe all education should be free, if I had not had help I would probably be working in a mineshaft or in a supermarket.

            When we launch you will know what I am talking about here and likely then know who I am, dont out me when this happens please as this really is my only release mechanism and where I feel comfortable.

          • Joseph

            You don’t have any reason to be afraid of me outing you. The details of my upbringing weren’t the best either and “snitches get stitches” was pretty well ingrained in me. I got lucky because my family saved for my education and I also got lucky on some investments. I used some of an inheritance to invest money and one of the companies I invested in was Harley Davidson. I sold my stock in them in 2005… (I think) I made a good profit anyway. I donate some money, but only to local food banks because I’m paranoid about larger charities. To some degree I support free education if it can be done while paying the actual educators. I believe I learned of the term bursary from “great expectations” I could be wrong, but I know the term.

          • Blue

            Funnily enough we helped a company with ties to Harley in 2007, now see if you know this company as it was linked quite heavily at one point.

            A motorcycle manufacturer that uses Harley Davidson engines and sometimes chassis but produces rat bikes.

            The reason we were introduced to them was we had a manufacturer of snow treads (basically you took off a wheel of the motorbike and turned it in to a snowmobile, company also produced the same sort of thing to turn cars and trucks in to snowmobile) anyway they were bought out by this other motocycle manufacturer and we went with them to help do the merger.

            Strong company Harley, I was brought up on bikes as my old man was a biker and my mothers nightclub was a hard rock/heavy metal nightclub. Although I have to say bikes are not my thing.

          • Joseph

            Honestly I have no idea. I had Caterpillar as my first thought, but mainly because I also had investments in them as well and that’s only because I remember that they might have had a joint venture at one point. They’re obviously not a manufacturer of motorcycles. I only invested money, I never had any knowledge about their business.

          • Blue

            Buell Motorcycle Company, we helped Harley wrap it up after Buell made the acquisition of the other company. Basically the resale value of Buell’s ripped the arse out of Harley’s financial services arm as the drop in value made second hand vehicles much more attractive than new bikes.

            Harley got all the patents and structure within the company we helped, hey walked away with a shit tonne of money and Buell disappeared and stopped losing Harley money.

          • Joseph

            That was probably after I sold my shares. Buell does sound familiar for some reason though. I don’t really know, I bought low and sold high… It’s too long ago to remember what really made me sell.

          • Joseph

            That is a lot more severe than my injury. Mine was really caused by many injuries. I used to play football (American football) in high school. I’ve also been in two semi-severe car accidents, one of which my right knee hit the area below the steering wheel. Neither of which were my fault, but that doesn’t really give me much comfort. My doctor wants to wait as long as possible, but he told me the end result will most likely be a knee replacement. I do hope your situation resolves in a manner that it will inconvenience you the least. I’m not sure if that’s well phrased, but I’m a realist at heart. In the colloquial sense because the human heart pumps blood not… ok I’m done.

          • Blue

            I knew before about knees as playing rugby at the level I played at you see the odd cruciate, achilles or hamstring injury and they usually ended up in operations or retirement so I knew I was f*cked I just didn’t realise by how much.

            You know the thing that screwed with my mind more than anything else was the feeling of it wasnt my fault and why did it happen to me, it wasnt so much that I felt everything had ended it was just downright being unlucky as if the universe had given me something and then taken it away from me, was a very dejected soldier for a very long time. I dont have a lot of patience, I think that is obvious from my writing, imagine that magnified tenfold and then depression setting in, I was a horrible bastard to be around. I can only imagine how Stephen Hawking feels which I used as a reference for myself, you know trying to find a silver lining to get me out of the funk, people worse off than you sort of thing.

            But I tell you, the last couple of days I have been using this place to keep my mind off this current piece of shit and if I end up with a fake knee then I just hope I am mature enough these days to deal with it.

            Funnily enough my consultant surgeon said to me when I was having outpatient treatment that I would need a false knee in 15 years or so time, almost to the day my cartilage popped. Now if there was ever a sense of the paranormal he would get the gold medal.

          • Joseph

            Even at the lower level, I had a few injuries that were not.. severe (life threatening), but worse than falling down. I guess it depends on how you define severe; I might be in the NFL if I had a viable option to play college. The real answer is that I probably wasn’t good enough, but with my physical condition, I couldn’t even try before the car accidents. The thing I miss the most now is normal everyday stuff e.g. walking 3 miles without falling down… I got kind of depressed to when I broke my ankle. It happened because my knee just wouldn’t move anymore and the next step was a broken cobblestone in Rome.

          • Blue

            I feel you, I used to walk 3-5 miles a day, running is out of the question as is weight training since my accident so I did religiously walk everyday and that is how I did this last one, I was walking along a bridlewalk, stepped off a curb which was about 8 inches high and heard the pop, next day I was in agony.

            Since it happened I have been unable to walk any sort of long distance as I am terrified of it locking which it does frequently, all I am able to do is lie on a bed and put the cartilage back under the knee through pressure, if I cant do that then it is locked in one position and of course that extra weight gain has not helped at all by putting extra pressure on it.

            Rugby was always my passion, I gave up a serious career in rugby for my PhD and working for BP as I come from a seriously poor background the priority had to be work but I still showed up to training with a good local team and played when i could, you probably did the same as I did to a certain extent, I played for my university team, which is where my username comes from as I am an Oxford Blue but I had to give it up fairly quickly, sometimes I find myself wondering if, you know what I mean?

          • Joseph

            Mine locks in position sometimes so, I can understand that. That was just the first time and it was rather poor timing. I never really got used to eating less to accommodate the reduced exercise so, that was my problem and the extra weight really doesn’t help. It still is a problem actually, maybe something just “remembers” my old habits or I’m prone to addiction. I suppose either scenario is viable and it doesn’t matter which is correct. What area of psychics did you say you studied?

          • Blue

            Full background, I did a geophysics degree with a specialism in volcanology (I know strange right?). then I did a PhD in advanced physics with a diploma in economic physics (basically I did another degree in economics and a PhD in particle physics) lastly in 2005 I started a degree in quantum chromodynamics which led to a PhD in the subject which I passed last February, took longer than normal as it was part time and I could only do some on the job experiments as and when I was free.

            The physics gives me the ability to write algorithms while the economics gives me the drivers behind the algorithms, it was originally supposed to be used for corporate finance within BP but I left soon after completion because quants were taking off in the banking industry and I was one of the most highly qualified at the time (not for very long which is why it was such a short window of opportunity).

          • Joseph

            Right off the bat, I’d just like to make sure you know that psychics was due to autocorrect… I obviously meant physics which is a real science.

          • Blue

            Didnt notice at all, shows how tired I am

          • Joseph

            Ok, I’ll admit ignorance in this area. I’m an accountant by trade (which you know if you remember). Is that a specialty degree? How do physics and economics converge?

          • Blue

            Physics is the means of understanding the numbers and defining how you deliver the structural trading patterns inherent within trades. Think about your stock exchange trades, as an example, when you purchase a trading solution basically you are purchasing a physicist algorithm, all of these day trading systems use these types of software products, what I used to write was the execution part of that. So I designed the algorithm that tells the computer when to buy and sell within the software packages. These are called trade execution algorithms.

            The economics is in play to understand when to make these trades by understanding macroeconomics and trading patterns, annual price fluctuations, drivers on those fluctuations, political risks, experience of tasks, human interaction (the best traders actually show psychopathic tendencies and take major risks, whereas the usual human pulls out of a trade as they dont believe it will go higher), prior commitments, futures, derivatives and financing strategies, arbitrage, funding requirements such as leverage and a whole host of other parameters that impact on trading.

            Without the economics you cannot develop the trading patterns for the algorithm if that makes sense.

          • Joseph

            The best traders would actually be psychopaths (well ASPD). I’ve never seen a university that combined the courses though. I actually have a major in accounting and a minor in psychology so, the methodology is sound. At least it is to me. It would be helpful for human reactions if not anything else. Hell even the actual accounting for derivatives is beyond my level of skill. I’ve done hedge investments, but mostly on foreign currency and that might have even been done wrong. That sounds really fascinating though.

          • Blue

            Oh god no they are not combined I had to do a level 4 diploma course in economics, this is an MPhil in the UK, no idea what it is in the US and a separate PhD course on advanced physics luckily this was achievable at the LSE. What this means is my PhD is in physics and I have another what is really a masters degree I suppose in economics it is not as high as a PhD although the structure is similar which is thesis only.

            That is really why it required a bit of forethought to do as I could see which way the banking industry was going, thinking about it I could have probably done a PhD in economics as it would not have been a huge step, I have no idea why I didn’t now.

          • Joseph

            Oh, I understand now. It makes more sense that they weren’t combined. It’s still a fascinating combination. I can say from (a small amount) of experience that derivatives are the most complex issue in accounting though. Even the head of the international standards board has claimed he doesn’t understand it.

          • Blue

            My experience of accounting is as you know at the high level audit side, when it comes to your level I have absolutely no clue, I know the standards and that is about it, what you have to do with them is way beyond me.

            My partner is a securities attorney, I think i told you this, so i leave the actualities of that to him, that was the conscious part of the partnership because he explains the intricacies of the products and I then write the trading patterns based on his understanding. But we employ two full time accountants and have an audit firm as a preferred partner for everything else.

            What you do is way beyond me, I suppose if I spent 3 years doing it I may become slightly proficient at it as it is numbers after all. Good accountants are worth their weight in gold, especially if they have great tax knowledge also πŸ˜‰

          • Joseph

            I’m proficient at the standards involved in the auditing of publicly traded companies. That being typed, it’s not really the legal aspects that bother me.

          • Joseph

            Also, wouldn’t that be considered a “soft” science?

          • Blue

            The economics is for sure, its all about statistics whereas the physics then uses those statistics and provides repeatable structures taking away some of the softness.

          • Joseph

            That makes sense to me. It really intrigues me the way those two can be combined. How far into the “science” did you get? Did you actually have to complete both degrees?

          • Blue

            Just answered below I think

          • Blue

            Sorry i will add a bit more for clarity, I completed the MPhil in economics in 3 years (its usually 2 if you are full time) and the PhD in 4 years which is the upper limit on completion.

            How this works is you enroll in both MPhil’s and then I transferred my physics one to PhD at the end of the second year.

          • Joseph

            I think the clarification is better below, but I’m pretty sure I know what you mean. The area that really interests me is theoretical physics. I’m just not acclimated for that I’m afraid.

          • Blue

            I understand it of course but there is always a caveat with theoretical physics in that it is maths/algebra based only, this to me is not really hard science – yet.

            Areas like M Theory (string theory basically) are somewhat discarded these days as the evidence just isn’t there for them, they have however brought up some interesting experiments and ways of looking at things differently which is why you cannot ever dismiss them out of hand.

          • Joseph

            My interest is pretty much in the science fiction category. Well, science fiction now… such as when they thought that electrons had exceeded the speed of light in Italy. That would technically be the first step toward time travel. I’d like to see something completely unforeseen before I die. Something that would change physics to it’s core. Sorry, I meant exceed the speed of light in a vacuum, I believe that to be an important distinction.

          • Blue

            Sorry nodded off last night and had to go to the docs this morning.

            I think you are talking about the neutrino experiment with the OPERA experiment in Italy?

            Time is a really fascinating subject to a physicist and thought experiments on it are everywhere, I love science fiction as well, you would be surprised just how many peers I have that went in to science specifically because of science fiction. Me it was Star Wars that pushed me that way.

            It was for a lot of the people in my age group, it was the inspiration for them to start asking questions and being awed by the spectacle.

            You know all joking aside about religion but I tend to think and feel that it was this era that led people to start questioning their beliefs more deeply, I certainly fantasised as kid about space, aliens and the like, to a young impressionable mind these films and the explosion of literature and media around that time really sparked an interest. My personal interest went into the physical universe but so many others went in to literature, the arts and other fields of science.

            Its a real shame right now that there is a concerted attack on the sciences leading people to back away from them as a career. In the UK, as an example, there is a massive deficit of physicists and physics teachers so people are not inspired to get into the sciences. Every one wants to be a football player, a celebrity or any other route to perceived easy money, greed is like a new religion that has slowly festered since the 80’s.

          • Lisa 39

            I’m sorry to hear about your knee and even sorrier about your boredom πŸ™‚ and i’m really sorry for your wife and pets, just teasing, but really, i hope your recovery is speedy πŸ™‚

          • Blue

            Read email. See reply to Joseph below, its a bloody nightmare and I am a massively bad patient, now you know why I have been hyper active on here the last couple of weeks.

            Very old injury, I will put what happened here but delete so read the email as it is very easy to trace who I actually am when you know what i am about to write:

            Very quickly, I left university and my sponsor company BP with a PhD in advanced physics and economic physics in 1996 to open a composite commodity trading company. The company didnt trade I wrote algorithms which I then sold on for license fee payments and residual transaction fees.

            Early 1997 I gave 4 banks Deutsche Bank, Barclays Wealth (private division of Barclays for rich clients), Barclays Capital (Barclays investment bank) and Raiffeisen Bank the algorithm for free with a trail commission of 0.000125% on transactions using the algorithm. It is based on commodities like iron ore, boxite, sugar, wheat, corn that sort of thing and is used to speculate on futures (this is a bit complex so just leave it at that).

            We spent 6 months playing with it to get it to work effectively and then it went live, in its first 3 months it made the banks about 17% annually on their transactions and they traded approximately $4.3 billion US with my algorithm which gave me a residual income annually at $4.3 b x 0.000125% (if you work this out you will see this is $500k)

            Once it was tested we opened it to the market and by early 1998 we had the 4 original and 8 top 30 banks using it, the other 8 banks we asked for a licence fee of $4m annually ($500k each per year) plus the 0.000125% trail commission and this worked out at roughly $7m USD annually in fees on their trades.

            With my first very large commission check in late 97 I paid off all my debts, all my families debts and bought myself my house, a holiday home in Thailand (where I met my then future wife) a brand new BMW 7 Series and a brand new 1998 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta which I used weekends and for fun. I was flying back and fore between New York (where my business partner is based and where these new banking clients were), Bangkok and London, jet set lifestyle and all that.

            I went to Thailand and got married in June, we came back after our honeymoon and settled in to a bit of normalcy and my wife fell pregnant. September I am heading to a meeting in the 355, I go over a roundabout where I am then struck from behind by a stolen car being chased by the police, my car slides straight in to a lamp post at about 60 miles per hour and I hit the lamp post just before the door hinge of the car.

            This pushes the car around the lamp post with my legs trapped in the drivers side and me in the passenger seat of the car, I never lost consciousness once in the car and I was trapped for 2 and a half hours, it took the ambulance 20 minutes to reach me as the traffic had all snarled up (central London) and a doctor was brought on site (I only found out much later that he was there as they did not think they could get my right leg out of the car and they were going to amputate it). Finally the fire service managed to get a jaws of life in between my legs and the bulkhead of the car and opened it sufficiently to remove me.

            Now my legs had no blood flowing through them for those 2 and a half hours so they were in tourniquets while the drivers seat was dismantled from the car and I was lifted out. I was then placed on a stretcher and told that I may lose consciousness, I later found out that as the blood has been trapped in the extremities all of the toxins that your kidneys, liver etc take out as routine cannot handle the influx so shut down along with the heart that has difficulty pumping this thick blood so they give you Warfarin to thin the blood sufficiently to send it around which in turn lowers your blood pressure. So they released the tourniquets and I lost consciousness through the pain and the toxins, my heart stopped 4 times and I was clinically dead for 30 minutes on the side of the road while they tried to get the toxins out of my system.

            I was then put in the ambulance and this is the first time i fully see my legs, my right leg has a compound fracture in the tibia which is poking through my suit trousers and is dangling out of a big orange splint, and the worst thing is I can see my unattached foot bouncing at weird angles all over the place, my right knee is shot but nothing like my left knee which is dislocated and bending to the right rather than straight.

            I get to casualty and they get my wife (who is 2 months pregnant with out daughter) and call my mother and father who are back in Wales. I spend 2 hours having x-rays and the like and then they tell me I am going under the knife. That was a Tuesday and I woke up on Friday.

            Before this I was extremely active, I played rugby at a very senior level, played squash and tennis and used weights for the rugby. So you can imagine my state of mind.

            Anyway, my right leg now had a nail through the tibia and was awaiting an operation to fix the damage in the knee and left leg was waiting for its operations while the swelling went down, coupled with this the seat belt had torn my shoulder apart so I had one working hand and that had 30 stitches in the wrist where the steering wheel had sheered due to the force of the accident and airbag deploying, I looked like one big purple bruise from head to foot.

            My right leg endured a knee operation and then my left leg endured 3 operations in a 6 week period, then I was let out to recover.

            Meanwhile my business had taken off and I was required to do some work and was asked if I would consider setting up a consultancy and investment banking business with the proceeds.

            Mid 1999 after the birth of my daughter we moved to New York where I continued my recovery and worked on my business.

            My right leg which was fubar’ed in the accident I have never had any trouble with at all during all of those years, my left leg where I only dislocated my knee is a f*cking nightmare, I have had a round of operations in 2004 for calcification where I had bone growing along my ligaments and tendons (that was painful enough), I have 25 millimeters play in my knee which means I can bend it sideways by about 6 inches, it slips every now and again causing huge pain and last year I stepped off a curb by my house and heard a very loud pop, my cartilage between my tibia and femur had burst open and also pulled my cruciate ligament off the bone.

            Now as you constantly have problems you also know that your leg will get better and you put up with the pain. This time it didnt and when i went and had an MRI in November because it was still hurting the doctor said “You are only walking because of that play in your knee, any ordinary human being their knee would have fused as your cartilage is shot”

            So two weeks ago I went in and had the surgery to correct and I am sitting here in my jimmy jams with an accuated cast on my leg that allows me to stand and bend the knee but f*ck all else adn it looks like at least a 3 month recovery. If that doesnt work I become fully bionic as they give me a false knee and that is a 9-12 month recovery.

            Now the best part, the guy that was a pissed up druggy fleeing from the police in a stolen car, gets a six month suspended sentence and a 380 pound fine, while my insurance pays out for a 90,000 pound car, 12.000 pounds in fixing the road and lamp post, 11,000 pounds to the emergency services that helped me and about 500k so far in operations.

            That is justice for you

            I will leave this up for 30 minutes then I am deleting it.

          • Lisa 39

            Wow blue, just wow, all of it. Do you mind if i ask how old you are?

          • Blue

            44 in a few weeks.

          • Lisa 39

            Thank you, come find me on your birthday and i’ll give you a present!

          • Blue

            Have you read it?

          • lbatfish

            Knee surgery? From rugby, by any chance?

            Whenever I Google my own (real) name, almost all of them are Welsh rugby players.

          • Blue

            Oh you didnt get a chance to read it, read the email you get with this as I will delete it.

            It leads to me directly so will delete:

            I left university and my sponsor company BP with a PhD in advanced physics and economic physics in 1996 to open a composite commodity trading company. The company didnt trade I wrote algorithms which I then sold on for license fee payments and residual transaction fees.

            Early 1997 I gave 4 banks Deutsche Bank, Barclays Wealth (private division of Barclays for rich clients), Barclays Capital (Barclays investment bank) and Raiffeisen Bank the algorithm for free with a trail commission of 0.000125% on transactions using the algorithm. It is based on commodities like iron ore, boxite, sugar, wheat, corn that sort of thing and is used to speculate on futures (this is a bit complex so just leave it at that). We spent 6 months playing with it to get it to work effectively and then it went live, in its first 3 months it made the banks
            about 17% annually on their transactions and they traded approximately $4.3 billion US with my algorithm which gave me a residual income annually at $4.3 b x 0.000125% (if you work this out you will see this is roughly $500k)

            Once it was tested we opened it to the market and by early 1998 we had the 4 original and 8 top 30 banks using it, the other 8 banks we asked for a licence fee of $4m annually ($500k each per year) plus the 0.000125% trail commission and this worked out at roughly $7m USD annually in fees on their trades.

            With my first very large commission check in late 97 I paid off all my debts, all my families debts and bought myself my house, a holiday home in Thailand (where I met my then future wife) a brand new BMW 7 Series and a brand new 1998 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta which I used weekends and for fun. I was flying back and fore between New York (where my business partner is based and where these new banking clients were), Bangkok and London, jet set lifestyle and all that.

            I went to Thailand and got married in June, we came back after our honeymoon and settled in to a bit of normalcy and my wife fell pregnant. September I am heading to a meeting in the 355, I go over a roundabout where I am then struck from behind by a stolen car being chased by the police, my car slides straight in to a lamp post at about 60 miles per hour and I hit the lamp post just before the door hinge of the car.

            This pushes the car around the lamp post with my legs trapped in the drivers side and me in the passenger seat of the car, I never lost consciousness once in the car and I was trapped for 2 and a half hours, it took the ambulance 20 minutes to reach me as the traffic had all snarled up (central London) and a doctor was brought on site (I only found out much later that he was there as they did not think they could get my right leg out of the car and they were going to amputate it).

            Finally the fire service managed to get a jaws of life in between my legs and the bulkhead of the car and opened it sufficiently to remove me. Now my legs had no blood flowing through them for those 2 and a half hours so they were in tourniquets while the drivers seat was dismantled from the car and I was lifted out. I was then placed on a stretcher and told that I may lose consciousness, I later found out that as the blood has been trapped in the extremities all of the toxins that your kidneys, liver etc take out as routine cannot handle the influx so shut down along with the heart that has difficulty pumping this thick blood so they give you Warfarin to thin the blood sufficiently to send it around which in turn lowers your blood pressure. So they released the tourniquets and I lost consciousness through the pain and the toxins, my heart stopped 4 times and I was clinically dead for 30 minutes on the side of the road while they tried to get the toxins out of my system.

            I was then put in the ambulance and this is the first time i fully see my legs, my right leg has a compound fracture in the tibia which is poking through my suit trousers and is dangling out of a big orange splint, and the worst thing is I can see my unattached foot bouncing at weird angles all over the place, my right knee is shot but nothing like my left knee which is dislocated and bending to the right rather than straight with the knee cap on the left hand side of my leg. I get to casualty and they get my wife (who is 2 months pregnant with out daughter) and call my mother and father who are back in Wales. I spend 2 hours having x-rays and the like and then they tell me I am going under the knife. That was a Tuesday and I woke up on Friday.

            Before this I was extremely active, I played rugby at a very senior level, played squash and tennis and used weights for the rugby. So you can imagine my state of mind.

            Anyway, my right leg now had a nail through the tibia (an 18 inch titanium rod) and was awaiting an operation to fix the damage in the knee and left leg was waiting for its operations while the swelling went down, coupled with this the seat belt had torn my shoulder apart so I had one working hand and that had 30 stitches in the wrist where the steering wheel had sheered due to the force of the accident and airbag deploying, I looked like one big purple bruise from head to foot. My right leg endured a knee operation and then my left leg endured 3 operations in a 6 week period, then I was let out to recover.

            Meanwhile my business had taken off and I was required to do some work and was asked if I would consider setting up a consultancy and investment banking business with the proceeds.

            Mid 1999 after the birth of my daughter we moved to New York to do this where I continued my recovery and worked on my business (I had spent a couple of months in Thailand and the Maldives recovering and flew back to the UK when the wife was 7 months pregnant).

            My right leg which was fubar’ed in the accident I have never had any trouble with at all during all of those years, my left leg where I only dislocated my knee is a f*cking nightmare, I have had a round of operations in 2004 for calcification where I had bone growing along my ligaments and tendons (that was painful enough), I have 25 millimeters play in my knee which means I
            can bend it sideways by about 6 inches, it slips every now and again causing huge pain and last year I stepped off a curb by my house and heard a very loud pop, my cartilage between my tibia and femur had burst open and also pulled my cruciate ligament off the bone.

            Now as you constantly have problems and pain after these operations you also know that your leg will get better and you put up with the pain. This time it didnt and when i went and had an MRI in November because it was still hurting the doctor said “You are only walking because of that play in your knee, any ordinary human being their knee would have fused as your cartilage is shot”

            So two weeks ago I went in and had the surgery to correct and I am sitting here in my jimmy jams with an accuated cast on my leg that allows me to stand and bend the knee but f*ck all else adn it looks like at least a 3 month recovery. If that doesnt work I become fully bionic as they give me a false knee and that is a 9-12 month recovery.

            Now the best part, the guy that was a pissed up druggy fleeing from the police in a stolen car, gets a six month suspended sentence and a 380 pound fine, while my insurance pays out for a 90,000 pound car, 12.000 pounds in fixing the road and lamp post, 11,000 pounds to the emergency services that helped me and the NHS has spent about 500k so far in operations.

            That is justice for you, so in answer to your question, I wish it was a rugby accident as that would mean I am not a disgruntled bastard that is willing to chop another mans leg off for the shit he has caused me.

          • Blue

            .

          • lbatfish

            Sorry, Blue, but I’m not 100% sure of the meaning of the comment that I’m replying to. It looks to me like you were trying to establish contact, but I think I didn’t see your reply soon enough (and a search for the “@” character didn’t result in any hits). So let’s try reversing the process. This is my “spammail” address, so it’s no big deal to me if I need to leave it up for awhile — even a flood of messages resulting from a “harvested” email address wouldn’t make much difference in the existing mess in there. πŸ™‚

            scodayap(at)yahoo.com

            Update: From there, I’ll reply using my real email addy. And maybe use the word “Blue” in the subject line to make it easier fo me to spot, just in case you make a late reply to this.

          • Blue

            Sent from my spam account at yahoo, answer here as I dont read that at all these days

          • lbatfish

            LOL! A popular choice of email service for those kinds of accounts, I guess!

            Unfortunately, it hasn’t shown up there yet. But I’ll keep refreshing my Inbox until it does.

          • lbatfish

            Okay . . . first the lead-in: “Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee.”

            And now for the punchline: “Got it!” πŸ™‚

          • lbatfish

            Oops! Yes, I got it.

          • lbatfish

            Sorry for the delay — I misunderstood what was happening, and didn’t get the meaning of your most recent request.

            Well (much reading later), I’m thrilled for your professional success, and saddened by your medical experiences. In my own life, I too had a screwed-up knee in which three out of four ligaments were snapped. Was on crutches for several months, and had it go out on me fairly often at first. But over time, my knee muscles took up the slack. It’s been probably 15 years of so since the last time that I had any problem with it. The only long-term problem is that activities that would stress the knee — such as tennis — needed to be avoided from that point on.

            I also had one recent life-threatening situation, which was a few years ago while I was in the Philippines. They were giving me a 50:50 chance at the time, and I had a tube coming out my gut for the next few months, But that, too, seems to be mainly in the past, other than a gnarly-looking scar and a shortened life expectancy. So it goes . . . .

          • Blue

            The professional stuff is in there really to provide an example of reflection on how you can be on top in one minute and at the bottom the next and not due to something of your own making. Its the equivalent of not taking anything for granted as some prick can take it all off you instantly.

            My single biggest issue at that time was not my business, my living conditions, my legs or my wife, it was that I could no longer do the things I wanted to do such as playing rugby and running around. It was pure unadulterated hate rather than me being able to think clearly.

            I wrote that to give you an idea that the things we think we hold dear are an absolute irrelevance and you only really see what is of purpose to your own life when something like this happens. To this day I still harbour hate for the prick that caused this to happen to me, its not healthy, its not relevant to my life at all to be perfectly honest but I hold him in absolute contempt and for years I wished to meet him while driving so I could run him over. And that is no joke, I really did have those feelings and would have acted on them given the chance.

            It screwed up my personality for a good couple of years before I took a more pragmatic look at myself, now that should give pause for thought given how pragmatic I actually am as it is the basis of my life.

            However there was a very real reason for this and it took a long time to work out what it was. Now this may sound strange but my personality was affected by the drugs I was taking for the pain and this may be a warning for some. As is common I was given morphine for the pain whilst in hospital and morphine derivatives to cope with the pain afterwards including Tramadol and Codeine based pain relief. A doctor in the US (actually a dentist that ruined my teeth with veneers) asked me what medication I was on and then told me to go and look it up. When I did I was surprised to learn that morphine affects one in ten people mentally bringing on psychosis and various psychological effects.

            I cut it out of my intake and went to generic pain killers such as paracetamol and ibuprofen and weaned myself off the morphine based stuff. It took about 3 months and my personality returned to normal, this is just a warning as it seriously affected my personality by using it.

            Sports are out of the question really and that is what set off the chain of events leading to the personality change, but I must stay I still harbour a lot of resentment.

          • lbatfish

            I’ve never had morphine — just occasional use of other opiate-like drugs such as codeine and tramadol — so I’m curious about whether that one-in-ten stat applies only to morphine specifically, or to opiates in general.

          • Blue

            It depends on the strength for the most part, as an example I was taking 500mg of Tramadol 3 times a day for about 6 months after with various other drugs like warfarin and anti-inflammatories, I think it also works in a combination effect as well. It depends on the dependency (I did not like writing that at all) and I had a fair few withdrawal symptoms so I always ask for pethidine based pain relief these days when needed or just take the generics like paracetamol and ibuprofen.

          • lbatfish

            Of course you are! As a Welshman, how could it possibly be otherwise? πŸ™‚

  • 1DireWolf

    I find it extremely funny that on a list about assassination attempts on a Queen that the ad just below the heading was entitled “Do You Hate Obama?” Is someone trying to give republicans ideas?

    • The adds seem to be personalised. I get an American Express add now, but I’ve also been offered Russian and Chinese brides here.

      • Valdez

        I have not been offered Chinese and Russian brides! Where are mine?

        • Architecht

          More importantly, what about mine?

          • Valdez

            You can have the Philippino girls who turn up on my screen instead…

          • Valdez

            Though… I am being offered the chance to lose 20 pounds tonight. Have I accidentally turned Skype on?

          • Architecht

            Oh yeah? I’m being offered the chance to lose 50 pounds right now…

          • Valdez

            Unfair! Another offer that is so much more attractive than mine!

          • Architecht

            I know right! And I only have to pay them $100 and take 10 surveys! *Sarcasm*

          • lbatfish

            Wow, that’s a new one — cut-rate divorces for midget spouses!

          • Architecht

            Lucky! Where on Earth did you find an even more amazing offer like that! *Even more sarcasm*

          • OC

            Known as Human Trafficking.

          • Architecht

            Exactly

          • Lisa 39

            You can have my ads for russian brides, i’m not interested πŸ™‚

          • Joseph

            Are they affordable?

          • Lisa 39

            I don’t know, i haven’t checked because i’m not interested in a bride lol

          • Architecht

            You can have my ads for Swiss guys lol

          • Lisa 39

            Cool, thanks, its funny that you get ads for swiss men and i get ads for russian women, somebody got that backwards lol

          • Joseph

            Well even if the ads were for Russian husbands, you don’t want to be Russian into anything. You could have checked for the lonely, pathetic guys you know on this website though e.g. ME, lol. I would have a lot in common with a nice Russian girl (that is paid to be my bride). There’s the money and I like vodka… We’d be perfect together!

          • Lisa 39

            I don’t think anyone here is pathetic, definitely not you πŸ™‚ it sounds like you’re forming a plan! And that was a funny joke to open with!

          • Joseph

            If there’s any Russian people reading this site, they probably hate me, lol. I’m confused by the other comment you wrote though. I can be a bit dense sometimes.

          • Lisa 39

            They would hate all of us, or try to get a date lol

          • Guest

            oh, no in the context of that comment I meant you should have checked out the Russian brides for your lonely male friends. The whole comment was a joke. I’m just normally sarcastic… I’m not sure how the “read my email” thing works. I thought it just replaced my name with “guest” when I delete the comment. I’ll try it now and if it’s successful I’ll give you an email address. I’m not really keen on the idea of everyone having my real one lol. I would have responded earlier, but I seem to have a budding bromance with blue.

          • Lisa 39

            Hi joseph, were you serious about me checking for guys namely you? I’m deleting this πŸ™‚

          • lbatfish

            Your caution is probably very well-founded. After all, even brides can turn out to be “tumors”.

          • Lisa 39

            Right? The last thing i need is another tumor lol i do have to tell you tho that when i read your comment i cracked up, i’ve been saying for years that i could never be a lesbian, 2 reasons, 1, my own junk doesn’t interest me and 2, women are crazy, i don’t need someone crazier than me lol

          • lbatfish

            No, you got that slightly wrong.

            You’re a “lesbian” if you’re female and are interested in OTHER women’s junk.

            If you’re only interested in your OWN junk, then you’re . . . uh . . . (whispers) . . . me . . . .

          • Architecht

            How much will it cost me?

          • Lisa 39

            I have no idea, i’ve never checked into it because i’m a female πŸ™‚

          • Architecht

            lol

          • lbatfish

            What?!? You’ve been leading me on all this time under false pretenses?

          • Lisa 39

            Damn it, busted again! We can just chalk this one up to paybacks for the time you distracted me with drugs and munchies!

      • Architecht

        *Artists*

      • OC

        I get Obama, credit clean up, and a computer virusy-looking wannabe Libertarian Reddit-type site. Some of Black and progressive forums also make computer alarms clang. So I’ve gathered that those blathering the Most about Freedom are most likely to violate Yours.

    • TheMadHatter

      I’m getting 3 adds for 3 different motor vehicle companies in the area. With the exact location. So yes, it is personalized. And now knowledgenuts knows where I live.

      • Architecht

        Just like Google

        • TheMadHatter

          Google somehow connected my private email to my work and youtube email and now I seriously consider turning to another host for my email. I can’t do anything anymore.

          • Architecht

            Wait, Google does that?

          • TheMadHatter

            If you make the mistake of signing in to google on a computer with both accounts, it can ask if you want to connect them. I said no, but now all of my accounts share information. And I can’t do anything because it thinks I’m 7 years old. Don’t ask why it thinks that. I have no freaking idea. Do I sound like I’m 7? *rage over*.

          • Architecht

            Wait, it thinks you’re seven years old? What the heck Google!

          • TheMadHatter

            I started the account years ago when I was seven- my uncle hosts a google page and made all of our emails connected to it. I didn’t start using the email until recently and my uncle hasn’t changed the ages since he started the emails, and I don’t have the power to change it because he set up his account to sort of “reside over” all the other accounts.

          • Architecht

            Oh, that makes much more sense…

          • TheMadHatter

            Except for the fact that google should remember your birthdays. I should have full rights over the email now, but you have to manually change the age settings, and I can’t. Because I’m seven.

          • OC

            Whatever it is Google is “asking” has already been done. And there is no one to stop them. They create their own internet laws, often to nullify the Constitution or worldwide human rights agreements. They are not bound by any convention or law, because the written laws haven’t kept up with the internet. With these type of individuals, (moral infants, techno geniuses) the legislature must spell in minute detail out each and every instance or “it’s not illegal”.

          • OC

            When Google made its demands by blocking my entire computer with the darkened screen, until I provided a phone number, ect., I re-booted my entire systm, then went straight to “delete account”. Yes, it is inconvenient. I’d had that e-address for a decade, I think. But attachment to a CEO or some radio waves is not my thing at all. Google has the right to steal our information anytime, change their Terms and Conditions, any time it wants. The government is as impotent on this matter as we are in the face of, (to a degree) some of the most borderline individuals in one field, in history.

          • Joseph

            Can you explain this comment please? I’m confused about how google can block your computer.

          • OC

            OK. You appear to be a sincere individual. You sign in as usual. A secondary smaller screen suddenly appears. The message there is about further securing your account with a phone number, blah, blah, blah. NORMALLY you’re able to X out, or click “not now” or “not interested” “go to inbox” or something like that. And this situation would be true WHERE EVER you’re at, trying to call up that particular email. But after a while there was “no exit” nor no way to check your mail. Or do anything else. The things frozen until you verify a phone number and whatever else they want. No other activity is possible until you input the personal information. My solution: Reboot. Google, Help, Delete Account. Are you sure? Yes. Is there a problem? No. “You will lose your contacts.” Problem solved. No more problems.

        • OC

          No matter how many privacy settings you turn on.

          • TheMadHatter

            It’s the sad, sad truth.

          • Architecht

            Yeah, although I like using Google, I’m beginning to wonder if they’re trying to take over the world…

    • HawkSperm

      Not sure they’re allowed to have ideas…nah, i kid.

    • ThisGuy

      Mine says something about intake manifolds?…

    • lbatfish

      Ideas about assassination? Or just “ideas in general”?

      If the former, then I’d be very much against it.

  • Valdez

    I do admire Queen Victoria’s spunk. She seems to have been made of tough stuff.

    • Architecht

      7 Assassination attempts? That’s nothing… Fidel Castro dodged about 638 assassination attempts.

      • Valdez

        He perhaps deserved 637 of them (of course I’m not Cuban so who’s to say…)

        • OC

          It is a sovereign country, even if it is communist. Cubans mostly love their country like we basically love ours.

    • OC

      Surrounded by military guards, and the police Energized by the having pulled off an ongoing, generational Nigerian scam that means she’ll be worshipped and no one in her family will ever — EVER — have to work for a living.

  • Nathaniel A.

    Thank God for the horrendous accuracy of 19th-century pistols.

  • ajss

  • Scott

    Let this be a lesson to all you kids out there. If you’re going to assassinate a world leader you should buy a proper firearm.

  • inconspicuous detective

    she was a brit. they’re kinda known for their resolve and resiliency.

  • JuttaPickle

    I am totally condemed the 7 assassination.There were many people killed in this assassination.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/12584128575/

  • lbatfish

    “Surprisingly, her popularity got a boost each time someone tried to kill her.”

    Well, that might explain why William McKinley got the continent’s highest mountain named after him. And why James Garfield ended up on Mt. Rushmore.

    • tchase98

      Yo dude, Garfield is NOT on Mt Rushmore. I’m not sure how you came to believe that but the faces on Rushmore are Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson and Roosevelt. Please remember this so you can get it right the next time it comes up on a conversation you’re having. You don’t want to look stupid, do you?

      • lbatfish

        After you’ve read enough of my other comments, you’ll understand what the intent of that statement was. πŸ™‚

        Or . . . maybe not . . . .